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February 22, 2012

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Roger H

HA!! Who says BTR ignores The Stones?

Now, how about a story about last night at The White House?

pellboy

KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the sound of STONES RULE's head exploding.

Big Joe

50th? Same as the Beach Boys? Wow. The BB's looked so much older. The Stones are Pickled.

STONES RULE

PB, no, my head is just fine, this is an old old rumour.

I am one of the few in this cow town that actually cares enough about THE GREATEST ROCK AND ROLL on to keep track of what they are doing.

I'll keep track of the Stones(as I have for 30+ years now) and I will let someone else here keep track of (so called) "bands" like Sleigh Bell (that should be about another 6 month task)

The facts are;
The Stones may tour late 2112 early 2113, it will probably be in smaller halls (in REAL cities (NOT KC) on a shorter tour.

Expect prices which will keep most of you Kansas Citians away, not that The Stones and KC people have ever been on the best of terms (to the detriment of KC, The Stones (and I) could not care less).


NEW

30+ years? Is that all? You're a newbie, SR!

SR

Yeah, saddly I am a Johnny come lately. I have only seen them 30+ times since 81, But still being from KC forever it has been a hassle. I have only slept at home 4 times after a Stones show.

NEW, I think you are from Jersey you said? or someplace up in the NE?? those fkrs up there are so spoiled with so many Stones shows, EVERY TOUR!!! S.Cali is the same story, and dont get me started on spoiled ass Chicago getting multi stops every tour!!! If I was from any of those places my number would be double or triple, but what can a poor boy do?

I barely missed the 75 Arrowhead tour, DAMN IT!! I am still pissed about that, but those are the types of things that made me play catch up on concerts over all.

Green

You can't compare the Stones and Sleigh Bells, thats not even fair, the Stones are rock and roll Gods, Sleigh Bells are a small inde band with a year or two under their belt. Honestly, I like them both and because of that, I rule, haha, jk, naa like what you like and be happy!

J.G.

They definitely need to play theatres and halls as SR suggested. If they were smart they'd split the show up half seated and half rocking out, maybe even re-arrange a couple of the heavy hitter tunes just to freshen them up a little. They mostly shy away from their acoustic numbers but at this age it's probably as good a time as any to embrace them. Pull out some stools, do a mid-show acoustic set to rest their old bones and add a layer of freshness to the whole thing.

How flippin cool would it be to see some of these dusted off and played acoustically?

Dead Flowers
Dear Doctor
Parachute Woman
Slipping Away
Coming Down Again
Sweethearts Together
Far Away Eyes
Downtown Suzie

GREEN RULES!!

It would be pretty cool. Who knows what they will do next. I gave up 4-5 tours ago trying to KNOW what they should/would do next.

The Stones have done so much for so many. Jonas and Miley and Britney owe a huge debt tothe Stones..... and do Jayz and his crew.... those people put on shows that "FEEL LIKE" a Stones conmcert, from... well.... the Stones invented the "B-stage" and The Stones were the first to use those hyper confetti machines that spit out the 3 inch x 1 incg masive amounts of confetti... The Stones are pioneers, and other follow..... at this point.... I dont know hat they should do....

anyhow.... GREEN RULES!!.... JUST CUZ... no, Green rules cuz he has such a good nature.
He and Bubba are the best.

Geordan

Add "Wild Horses" and "Loving Cup" to that list, J.G., and I'm in! That Rolling Stones tribute band played both of those acoustically at Knuckleheads last month and it was the highlight of the show. I would definitely go check out the Stones tour, if they can pull it off. It would be cool if they bring Bill Wyman, kicking and screaming, along for the ride, and maybe even add Mick Taylor to the festivities. Sounds far-fetched, but I read somewhere that this would be Keef's dream lineup, if this tour ever happens. Speaking of Keith Richards, I finished his book recently and who knew he would remember so much??

TC

SR,I was at the 1975 show at Arrowhead,it was one for the ages I must say....The Gap Band opened,followed by Chaka Khan and Rufus.Next came The Eagles (in their classic lineup).Joe Walsh wasn`t officially with them yet,but he joined them onstage and did "Rocky Mountain Way".Then the Stones headlined,and I fully agree with you,they did not seem to crazy about being in KC! And all this for the princely sum of $15.00 a ticket!

Just not cool

Enough with the KC bashing already! You hate it so much, hell, I'll come over and help you pack. Class act there, SR...

jhnycat

Gave up on them when they phoned it in for the 72 concert at municipal, the exile tour. Hardly played an hour, with no encore. They had to be better in later tours, just disappointing when they didn't deliver with what is considered their prime material.Still consider them major players as a whole career.

pellboy

That's the thing, jhnycat, when you saw them, they were more hit or miss...the subpar performance that you saw may have been followed by a brilliant one-of-a-kind performance in the next town. The beauty and curse of the band at that time. No worries with that since at least the early 80s as while their performances may not vary as much, fans aren't subjected to the highs and lows of earlier tours and instead get a very good, professional show everytime albeit one that maybe a tad corporate. Still worth seeing imo, especially if they come to your town.

Stones drool

Will this next tour be sponsored by Depends?

jhnycat

Yeah, would have liked to see them on a good night.
Ya think maybe they had a drug problem? hehe.

Willy

Good for you Pellboy for seeing that 75 Arrowhead show. I have a bootleg of it and it sounds like a fun time.


As far as the whiner above..... wha wha wha whine.... dont talk about KC.... whine whine... hey boy, if you cant handle the truth, dont read it. It is not an opinion about the Stones and KC.

KC folks dont seem to care much about them, and the Stones dont seem to care about KC, it is just a fact. We are fly over country, that is the way the world views KC, and that stateline does no favors for anyone here, no other city is divided like that, and then you add in the MO vs KS thing, and it is just wrecks us.

PS
For the record, KU is gonna whoop ass this Saturday on its way to another (8 in row) Big 12 Championship. Too bad, so sad MU (Losers that they are) couldnt take care of business with KSU the other day. (Not really too bad, more like HA HA !!)

pellboy

No, didn't actually see the '75 Arrowhead show, saw them there later though on the Steel Wheels Tour w/ Living Colour opening and I thought that show was great. And saw them at Kemper and outdoors in Boulder during the "Tattoo You"(?) Tour and that's it. Just the three times so I would love to see them one last time and will probably do that, even if they don't play KC.

Willy

Oh, it was TC who saw the 75 show, but hey man I was at those Booulder shows too, both days. Those were my first shows for The Stones. The pastels in the day time, Heart and George T, the cool cherry picker gimmick (now lame).... I saw them the 2nd show at Kemper in December, we were shut out the first night, I wasnt going to pay $100.00, but if I knew Taylor was going to play on the first night I might have bucked up. The Kemper show was great too, what a finale, all those big colorful balloon, so much fun.

NEW

I was just messing around, SR. You've logged in way more shows than I have. I seen maybe 10 going back to '75 and that includes a couple of X-Pensive Wino shows (which werre awesome by the way).

You are right about NY always getting shows, SR. By shear luck I was able to see them at the Capitol Theatre in Passaic in '78 and they almost always have played MSG going back to '69. I may be wrong but I think they actually bypasses NY in '81 and instad played Phila and New Haven.

fiddler

Stones Rule sounds like a cat I know who smokes meats. "animals taste good."

joe

Was at the Kemper show in 1981 with Mick Taylor. Unfortunately, I was not that well versed with the history of the band at that stage of my life and did not fully appreciate the fact that Mick was there. Sometimes ignorance is NOT bliss. Thorogood as an opener was really nice.

SR

NEW,
See?? those expensive wino shows are a perfect example of KC being viewed as "fly over country".

In retrospect I can not believe I missed the wonos shows!!.... or how about the Blues Brothers tours skipping us.... along with Zepplin? (and yeah yeah I know about the Memorial hall boo fest).. but damn it!!!! and to this day a lot of artist hate KC... e.g. U2?

Artist skipping KC are the reason I started traveling to see shows, but too late for a lot. DAMN IT!!

Before the internet it was harder to get info on dates, etc. I used to regularely peruse the back of RS magazine at the magazine racks, just for tour info.

ah, anyway... the days of hard core traveling for shows is over, tickets are too pricey, and most artist these days are not worth traveling to see.

SR

joe,
awesome for you to see that show, props :)

btw- that 1st KC show is readily available on bootleg, very very easy to get.

And a fun fact- Did you know the pay per view at Hampton recorded for the 1981 shows was a week after the KC shows. The Stones just released the sound of tha tshow, and rumors say the will do a DVD too, and they should, it was shown on TV, so why not?

Still not cool

"KC folks dont seem to care much about them."

Based on what? You're opinion? I also like, "It is not an opinion about the Stones and KC." OK, then why use the term, "cow town?" Again, real class act. Again, I'll bring some boxes and we'll move you to somewhere the Stones deem more worthy, although I'll bet you've probably never even seen them in concert.

live music fan

Is the '81 show with Taylor KC's all-time rock'n'roll highlight? I'm not really a Stones fan, but what else compares with that?

pellboy

Yeah, you might be right, LMF. Those types of unexpected guest spots usually happen in the bigger markets or with an artist indigenous to a certain market so KC really lucked out with the timing of that Taylor appearance.

Not quite on the same scale but next closest highlight may have been SRV coming into the GE after his Starlight gig and jamming with Lonnie Brooks. Best for me anyway.

SR

Is the '81 show with Taylor KC's all-time rock'n'roll highlight?

I am not sure the answer to that.
Taylor is an interesting case.

Actually I will say this, if you can lay your hands on some of the Stones bootlegs out there from 70-73 (Brussels affair) Taylors lead guitar will blow your mind. Those are probably the highlights.

The Stones themselves are now selling online downloads for only 5 bucks... so if you wanna hear some wicked lead guitar on some live Stones songs try the Brussels affair. I think they have some free samples there too.

http://www.stonesarchivestore.com/

SR

Or just go to youtube and have a listen to the more rocking songs from BA.... take your pick, you cant go wrong because THE ROLLING STONES RULE!!!


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brussel+affair&oq=brussel+affair&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2886l5382l0l6380l14l14l0l5l5l0l171l948l3.5l8l0

Tom Ketcher

I have always said as long as the Rolling Stones are touring, I'm none too old to go to a Rock Concert. Haven't missed one Ever and won't be missing this one either. Quite Simply The Greatest Rock & Roll Band on the Planet.

Tom Ketcher

Entertainers have to pay the 1% tax in KC (aka Sprint Center). Lets say you are a group like U2 and there are only so many days a year you are going to be able to make travel arrangments, get your gear in town and setup. If you had your choice of playing in a City that did not have the %1 or KC, what would you do?

SR

""If you had your choice of playing in a City that did not have the %1 or KC, what would you do? ""

Oh really? That is very interesting, I never even thought about that aspect, but it makes sense about why bands shy away, and they sure have.

Thanks Tom.

mikednkc

Let me preface this by stating that I love the Stones and their music. However, I saw them in 81, a concert that I would grade as a "C". The next time I saw them was the "Steel Wheels" tour at Arrowhead in '89, which, other than the fireworks at the end of the show, was truly pathetic. I had just seen Pink Floyd and The Who, who were both phenomenal, so I was extremely disappointed with the Stones and Mick's complete inability to sing anymore. I can't imagine he has improved. To me they are nothing more than a nostalgia act, and I wouldn't pay more than $10 to see them.

NEW

You know Miked, SR will kill me for saying this but I don; toally disagree with you. I was first drawn to the Stones through footage from the '69 and '72 tours. Even though that footage had a life changing impact on me, the tours I saw, while they were a lot fun, were not as transcendent as the stuff that drew me to the band in the first place.

live music fan

I've got a theory that bands are only good while they're on their way up. Once they achieve success, most bands either break up or just become cover bands of their younger selves. You can name just about any band and this theory will hold true.

SR

Exactly the type of comments I have heard before and come to expect from Kansas Citians regarding The Stones, no surprises, no big deal.... as Mick, Keith, 10 zillion worldwide Stones fans and I will all yaaaaaaaawn.

:)

Geordan

I only ever saw The Stones on the Steel Wheels tour here in KC in '89 and I liked the show. Sure, past footage I've seen in films from the glory days (especially the Mick Taylor years) is incredible, but I was at least happy to see the band before Bill Wyman jumped ship. But Keith truly seemed to me like he was happy to be there and Mick wasn't bad either. I realize it wasn't the classic Stones and I personally think if they had hung up their instruments after "Some Girls," there would be very few who could argue that they weren't the best damn Rock & Roll band ever. But they have been coasting as a band for at least 30 years of their 50-year existence. But some of the work they released in their prime?? Lordy.....

pellboy

I'm actaully more interested in the possibility of a new Stones album than I am in seeing them and that's usually the case for me in regards to most of the old 60s/70s-era acts that are still touring.

I thought "A Bigger Bang" was pretty damn good and probably their best record since "Tattoo You". While seeing them would be more about nostalgia and just having a good time, age doesn't always diminish creativity and I believe that any band that has that much great music in their past, can still produce an album that has the potential to be better than alot of the stuff that's creamed over by the indy/Pitchfork crowd. At least it will be a rock & roll record.

live music fan

"an album that has the potential to be better than a lot of the stuff that's creamed over by the indie/Pitchfork crowd."

That's setting the bar pretty low...but then again, I don't like most studio albums. Most of 'em are over-produced, and I prefer live music.

J.G.

Mick's singing style has become almost a parody of himself. Over-enunciating lines ad nauseum. Nobody really talks about that. One of the key reasons the Exile overdubs on some of that old unreleased material didn't sound right. He's still Mick, I'm just sayin.

NEW

Geez, JG, I think that started happening in '75! At least live.

Don't get me wrong. Still a great band to see.

Mike A

JG is exactly right- to me it has gotten very annoying. The dubs and unreleased stuff sound weird.

pellboy

Don't care about any of the Stones negativity. This thread motivated me to breakout A Bigger Bang last night and that album kicks ass! Granted, that's 7 years ago now, but the band's demise has been a topic of conversation since way before that and I think that record was sort of a f**k you to all the naysayers.

Stones, Dylan, The Who...I just can't ever shit on any of them because of all the great work from their glory days and even beyond. It'd almost be equivalent to bashing a family member that's going thru a rough patch. Just not necessary.

SR

Right on Pellboy!!

Will somebody please buy pellboy a drink, he earned it. Bravo pellboy, well said man. I wish upon you a free drink (or something) of your choice this weekend.

SR

How about this one from BB?
btw- We traveled to opening night in Boston, saw this live, it was awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE7JIPAynOs

onthemark

PB, I like to throw in '40 Licks' from time to time and just let it play. Can't go wrong with any song!

pellboy

Cool vid, SR. Would have been nice to see Mick break out the harp on that one like on the album, but always good to hear/see them play straight up blues.

TC

Amen,Pellboy,Amen! Folks have been saying the Stones are done for years( hasn`t happened )........ and the CD`s A Bigger Bang and 40 Licks kick butt! I mean,if Keith Richards is stil alive (with as many drugs as he`s done),then the Stones will keep on rockin`!!!

Rick

"...we all feel we owe it to ourselves and to the people to do something.”

breathtaking arrogance, even for them.


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