Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, featuring Nils Lofgren (above), perform Saturday night at the Sprint Center. Showtime is 7:30 p.m. Tickets are $29 to $95. Photo by Florence Jo Lopez.
His 60th birthday is a milestone Nils Lofgren will remember always, for mixed reasons. A couple of days before the occasion, he rushed home from England, where he was in the midst of a solo tour.
Clarence is Clarence Clemons, who played tenor saxophone and had been an eminent, founding figure in the E Street Band since 1972. Clemons was buried June 21, 2011, in Florida. The coinciding events affected Lofgren profoundly, he said, but his wife and one of his own songs helped pull him through.
“Even though I’d written a song about that very theme, death and loss, I was ready to go to some dumpy motel, be miserable, watch bad TV, pack to go home and just feel the sadness of the loss of Clarence,” Lofgren said.
That song was “Miss You, Ray,” an ode to Ray Charles, one of Lofgren’s music heroes. The song is on his latest solo album, “Old School,” released in September 2011.
“But after the funeral, Amy took us all out for dinner, band, crew and friends, and it turned out to be very comforting and provide lots of solace.
“Even though it was very sad and sorrowful to lose him, it reminded me of what the song says: Life is still grand. There are still people left, and the people you’ve lost want you to live your life. That was lost on me till we got out to dinner that night.”
But for Lofgren, who joined the E Street Band in 1984, and the rest of his bandmates, grieving Clemons’ death and moving on also required profound adjustments professionally. It is a process they had some experience with: In April 2008, the band lost founding member Danny Federici, who died of complications from melanoma.
This March, Springsteen launched the Wrecking Ball tour in Atlanta, the first for the E Street Band without Clemons.
“It was really rough,” Lofgren said, of getting accustomed to performing live without Clemons on stage. “First of all, I can’t imagine Bruce handling it any better than he has. The way he has presented it in concert is kind of mind-blowingly successful in the way it allows everyone in the audience and on stage to grieve, but appropriately.
“Of course, we’re grieving. Of course, it’s a terrible loss. But we’re here. We’ve got great songs, we’ve got great musicians: What are we gonna do?
“Bruce has been spectacular in how he put this all together to acknowledge it pretty early on in the show. Kind of like give everyone in the audience permission to grieve but celebrate your life tonight because it is precious.”
Lofgren has been asked if not playing again was ever under consideration as a show of respect to Clemons.
“I was like, ‘Well, it was a thought, it was an idea in the air, but how does that respect Clarence?’ ” he said. “I never saw anyone work as hard as Clarence, with all his aches and pains and health issues, to be able to get out there and play every night. It was the most precious time of his day.”
Lofgren recalled the time four years ago when he underwent double hip-replacement surgery at the same time Clemons had his knees replaced.
“The fourth day in, I was really beat up,” he said. “The therapist came in and said, ‘We’re going to take a three-block walk outside with your two canes and spotters. Where do you want to go?’
“I said let’s go up the road and see Clarence, who just had his first knee done. Walked three blocks up the road in New York City to see Clarence. Three weeks later, he had his second knee done. We both got well enough to do the Working on a Dream Tour.
“So I know Clarence would want us to get out and play.”
Instead of finding one person to replace Clemons, Springsteen overhauled the band, adding a five-piece horn section that includes saxophonist Jake Clemons, Clarence’s nephew, and more background singers.
“I feel so grateful to be out with this great band, with Bruce leading us, playing these great songs,” Lofgren said. “As much as I miss Clarence, I still feel that gratitude and feel like we’re doing great, great shows.”
The change in personnel has changed the vibe on stage, Lofgren said.
“Very naturally and organically, I might play a little less because there’s a lot of space filled up by sound,” he said. “But that’s natural. It’s kind of nice. You hear something and go, ‘I don’t really need to play here,’ and sit there bopping along, watching Bruce, listening to these beautiful sounds that haven’t been there in the past, waiting for something you want to jump in on, because there’s a lot of freedom to improv, or when there’s a line I need to present every night.
“Having a five-piece horn section is great. A lot of Bruce’s music lends itself to a great horn section. We had one for the Tunnel of Love Tour in 1988. And it’s a great sound to hear and play to regularly. Plus they’re great guys.
“It’s fun to watch people discover, as a professional musician, what a great band leader Bruce is. It’s a wonderful progression of a great, historic band, and I’m very proud of how Bruce is navigating us and challenging us to do something every night that is unique and spectacular that touches an audience and sends them out with feelings of hope and inspiration that will linger.”
When the Wrecking Ball Tour is over — and right now there’s a nine-month break between shows in Mexico City in December and Rio de Janeiro in September — Lofgren said he will return to his solo career and his own songs.
“I’m proud to be in this band,” he said, “and whenever Bruce says he wants to fire it up, I’m there. But I don’t do both. I’ll tell people about my record, but my focus is on this band and this tour. And when Bruce decides to wrap this tour up, I’ll go back to doing my shows in clubs.”
One of the songs he’ll sing in those club shows is “Miss You, Ray,” which he has altered.
“I started singing, ‘Miss You, C,’ about missing Clarence,” he said. “I got a great recording of me singing the song as ‘Miss You, Ray’ that I felt was really powerful, so I left it as that on the record, which is how I wrote it. But it’s metaphorical, of course.”
It’s also applicable to a guy who has been touring for 44 years, who has worked with legends besides Springsteen (including Neil Young and Lou Reed) and who has accumulated legions of friends. Life at 60, Lofgren said, is about finding gratitude and appreciation for what matters most and accommodating the pains and losses.
“I’ve got a great home, a great wife, Amy, four dogs I miss more than ever when I’m gone,” he said. “I no longer enjoy leaving home. I no longer enjoy airports or flying. But the opportunity and experience to walk on stage with a great band and great audience awaiting has taken on a new level of importance and a new level of excitement and inspiration and appreciation.
“If you’ve been around a long time, it doesn’t matter whether you’re a musician or writer, it’s hard to escape the loss thing. You bury family and friends and grief can take you out at some point. And the idea of looking around at what’s left is easier said than done.
“So it comes down to trying to apply some of the wisdom of the good things about getting older, because it’s not all bad, but it’s not all good. Finding a balance isn’t always easy.”
| Timothy Finn, The Star
Cool article, thanks for posting. I really enjoy that Lofgren record, one of my favorite releases of last year. I'm chomping at the bit for Saturday. The Wallflowers will be the prefect warmup tomorrow night.
Posted by: pellboy | November 14, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Thanks for the great interview. Like Pellboy, I am looking forward to sharing Bruce's music with my son Saturday night. But, one thing Pellboy...why not drive up to Omaha Thursday night with the rest of us tramps???
Posted by: Ron B | November 14, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Yeah, thought about it, but just couldn't pull it off as the wife's work beckoned. Besides, I usually only catch Bruce in another town BEFORE his KC appearance has been announced, ie-Omaha for the Magic Tour and Tulsa (thankfully) for Working On A Dream. While twice would nice, I'm content w/ just the Saturday show and while certainly no E Street Band, I'm sure I'll enjoy The Wallflowers in their stead. Have fun up there. Have seen The Who and Bruce there and I actually prefer the Qwest Center(or whatever they call it now) to the Sprint Center.
Posted by: pellboy | November 14, 2012 at 02:46 PM
Looking forward to Saturday night as well. Anyone know, approximately, what time Bruce has been taking the stage?
Posted by: who-fan | November 14, 2012 at 03:02 PM
The arena in Omaha is now the Century Link Center. All these mergers and corporate names on all of these venues.
Posted by: Kurt | November 14, 2012 at 03:07 PM
I really liked the Iowa Events Center in Des Moines, IA. It included Wells Fargo Arena, Hy-Vee Hall and Veterans arena all in one complex.
I believe the arena in Omaha is connected with a convention center too. The Sprint Center has no leg room in the upper level and they should have razed more area for it.
Posted by: Kurt | November 14, 2012 at 03:27 PM
insert "something really mean-spritied about how Bruce wont actually play... blah blah... will cancel agina last moinute... everyone shouldn't get their hopes up... blah blah blah.... and something else crappy about someone else's demise... blah blah blah he sucks anyway.... dead horses, meatpacking etc etc..."
yawn.... sigh :( I don't have the motivation for IT anymore.
The thrill is gone. The end is near.
Posted by: Martin | November 14, 2012 at 03:30 PM
"The Sprint Center has no leg room in the upper level and they should have razed more area for it."
Agreed. Lower level is comparable to other newer arenas in the midwest that I have visited (Omaha, Tulsa, St.Louis), but the upper level is a joke, especially for a non-little person like myself. Unfortunately, it's those seats that are in my price range and it's one of the reasons (outside of the Springsteen shows) that I never attend concerts at the Sprint Center.
Posted by: pellboy | November 14, 2012 at 03:32 PM
Great article, Tim...thanks.
Posted by: kcmom | November 14, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Gotta miss Bruce this time ...gotta gig with BCR,Sounds of Samba and Blue RIddim at t
he Record Bar...come if you can after the Sprint center. Don't forget that Kansas City native Curt Ramm is playing Trumpet with Bruce still. Top-Rankin!
Posted by: Dean A Ottinger | November 14, 2012 at 10:25 PM
No offense to Springsteen fans (myself included) but this guy played on Tonight's the Night and was on the short list to replace Mick Taylor. Not to mention his own solo stuff and work with Grin was totally kick ass (and he's also a heck of a nice guy). Seems there should be more attention on that work but I guess this is an article about Clarence and E Street more than anything. Well done.
Posted by: NEW | November 15, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Saw The Boss last night in Omaha and he didn't dissappoint! Came on at 8:21 and played 3 hours and 15 minutes. Did 6 songs from Nebraska which was pretty cool.
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Posted by: http://isabellemarantsneakers.weebly.com | November 16, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Just got back from Springsteen at the Sprint Center and the verdict? I actually liked this show even more than the fine Sprint show in 2008 on the "Magic" tour. The massive E Street Band (No Patti Scialfa tonight, but there were still 17 people on stage) played just a few minutes over the three hour mark, including the encores, and the sound was really good for this show. I was in the second row of the Upper Level looking right down on the left side of the stage, so I could see everything just fine and there were big screens for those in the back. It's really hard for me to write about a show that had so many great moments and not end up with a thesis, and Bruce is so sacred to his hardcore fans and yeah, there are those who despise the guy. Don't know how you can hate Bruce without seeing him live and witnessing a man who leads his band through a show like there's no tomorrow. He truly does, and always played each show as if it were his last. If you can't at least respect THAT, well, I can't help you.
Highlights for me? Well, my favorite Springsteen song is either "Prove It All Night" or "The River" depending on what day it is, so when Bruce broke into "Prove It" after opening with a fun version of "Kansas City" (Wilbert Harrison-Lieber Stoller version), I thought, "OK, THIS is going to be a great show!" What else? Bruce crowd-surfing during "Hungry Heart" was fun to behold. "The Rising" was particularly moving. The band really rocked "Light Of Day." Nils Lofgren's manic, 'spinning' solo during the aforementioned "Prove It All Night" was just incredible.
As for the band, Nils guitar work was top-notch all night. The new five-piece horn section was fantastic and damn, Clarence's nephew, Jake, is nearly as badass as his uncle on the Sax. That kid can play! There was a percussionist who was quite good, although Max Weinberg is the true heart of that band, in my opinion. Three additional backup singers were good, but not entirely necessary.
Posted by: Geordan | November 18, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Continued............(meant to hit edit and entered by mistake)
Anyway, the crowd is the umpteenth member of the band and were great all night. I wish I had the stamina of those folks in the pit. There were requests and a few folks even got to get on stage (as per usual at a Springsteen show). A young girl got to sing the chorus to "Waitin' On A Sunny Day." Women were brought up to dance and we even got "Santa Claus is comin' To Town." "My City Of Ruins" was soulful and "Badlands" is always great to hear, especially with umpteenth-thousand folks singing along. It truly was a great concert and I'd love to hear what pellboy, onthemark, and others here thought. Sorry about mangling this writeup, but I just wanted to give anyone who couldn't (or wouldn't) be there, an impression of what they missed. I'm not really even a fan of his last two albums, but you still go to see Bruce because you know he will deliver on stage and that's exactly what he did last night.
Posted by: Geordan | November 18, 2012 at 01:13 AM
I can honestly now say I wouldnt go see this goofball sput his bullshit for free, because I was offered a free ticket yesterday afternoon and I turned it down.
I get enough lies direct from my government I dont need this multimillionaire acting like he understands what it like to be an ex-Hostess factory worker out of a job this morning.
fk him and his "we take care of our own" schtick. NO THEY DONT!! NO HE DOESNT!
Posted by: Harvey | November 18, 2012 at 03:32 AM
...but thanks for another good Geordan, your good work is always appreciated and a nice compliment to the reviews they post here... and you are much quicker :)
Posted by: Harvey | November 18, 2012 at 03:36 AM
You mention Hostess and my favorite Springsteen line of the night, in a 'you had to be there' kinda way, was "Ain't no more Twinkies, but there's still jawbreakers!" Look, I just try and overlook the fact that Springsteen's daughter is an accomplished, competitive Equestrian, and that Bruce probably has a villa next to Sting and George Clooney in Tuscany, or some such place. I try, whenever possible, to not let an artist's personal life shade my appreciation of their work. Sure, the dude's wealthy, but it's not like he didn't earn that. As we've discussed at length here, and rightfully so, I can find little fault in an artist that will play their heart out for three hours, when so many 'established' bands these days don't have enough respect to at least play for HALF that amount of time.....
Oh, and yet another highlight for me last night was "Because The Night." When I first heard the Patti Smith song version ago, I fell in love with it (I even love the 10,000 Maniacs' unplugged version). It was mysterious, sexy, and lyrically more brilliant than 99% of what was being played on the radio at the time and didn't even know that Springsteen wrote it until a few years after the fact. The band really nailed that song as well last night. Also, "Dancing In The Dark" improves, for me, from record to stage. It was a pumped up version that got the crowd on their feet. Love him or hate him, seeing Springsteen and The E Street Band live should be a mandatory requirement for ANY Rock band starting out (as well as those who are already established). ALL artists should play with such passion, energy, and heart.....or at least try.
Posted by: Geordan | November 18, 2012 at 09:17 AM
...meant "Patti Smith's version many years ago."
Posted by: Geordan | November 18, 2012 at 09:21 AM
The key to success in showbiz is sincerity...
and when they can fake that, then they have it made... but still... they can only fool some of the people all of the time.
Posted by: Harvey | November 18, 2012 at 09:53 AM
Then I'm a fool. Happy?? Man, I like high-brow stuff and admittedly, quite a bit of low-brow stuff, in not only music, but including Movies, Television, Art, Books, etc., and if I had to stop and consider the integrity and sincerity of every entertainment choice I make, then I wouldn't have ANY fun.....and anyway, I think you're dead wrong about Bruce's "sincerity." OK, You don't like Springsteen and even I can see how he might polarize some folks. I work with a guy who thinks Motley Crue is the best Rock band that ever lived (now THAT is a band I've never liked) and thinks Springsteen is a "Ultra-Liberal blowhard." To each his own. But as someone who has always worked hard at whatever I've done, I appreciate Bruce's work ethic. When he performs in concert, he doesn't do so half-assed. So many bands try to be aloof, or just phone it in, and like him or hate him, Bruce has NEVER done that. I respect the hell out of that. So, yeah, maybe I'm a fool to appreciate THAT.......
Posted by: Geordan | November 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM
I do not have a way with words like Geordan does, but I will add that this was one amazing show. And I was among the fortunate who made it into the pit--on the advice of some die-hard fans we met standing in line, we chose a spot near the back barrier in the corner near the camera on the left side facing the stage. When Bruce paused while the tribute to Clarence was playing he was just two feet from me.
It was an incredible evening. The problem is the time just flies by and three hours has elapsed before you realize it. And I agree that Jake is a worthy successor to his uncle's legacy.
Posted by: kcmom | November 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM
I post to a lot of boards, and some of those boards are polite and people on them dont bash on things/bands very much, and neither do I, on those polite boards....
but on this board there are people who (FOR A LONG TIME) have happily and zealously bashed on bands they dont like...
I didnt write that board bashing policy, but if people here are going to bash on others people's bands then people sure as hell better be ready to have people bash on their favorite band, and not get all sad, sensitive or uppity about it.
Posted by: Harvey | November 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Geordan, thanks again for ANOTHER fine review! I love reading a review from the perspective from a fan. I've only seen Bruce once many years ago at Kemper and loved it. Wish I'd gone last night.
Those that are jaded about Springsteen etc... It's Only Rock & Roll.
I too sometimes cringe a bit when I see Springsteen or Bono step back from the mic and act so into the moment. However if the music and lyrics are great then I just grin and roll with it. I'd rather watch a performer that appears to enjoy what they are doing and engage the audience to a certain extent than a band of "shoegazers".
My personal favorite live performers are Ray Davies/The Kinks and Paul McCartney who both engage the audience yet don't go over the top. I suppose it helps they've written some of the best songs ever written.
(remember...it's only rock & roll)
Posted by: Kev | November 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM
But that's ALL you do, "Harvey." Am I wrong about that?? A little positivity coming from your direction would be awesome. Give it a try......
Posted by: Geordan | November 18, 2012 at 03:59 PM
stop whining geordan, it doesnt suit you.
Posted by: Harold | November 18, 2012 at 06:12 PM
"fk him and his "we take care of our own" schtick. NO THEY DONT!! NO HE DOESNT!"
....and Harold/Harvey/Stones Rule/DT/etc./etc/etc. calls ME a whiner. Some days ya just can't win........
Posted by: Geordan | November 19, 2012 at 09:58 AM
yup, you have become quite the little whiner geordan, good luck with that.
Posted by: Oscar | November 19, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Anything else??
Posted by: Geordan | November 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Dont take it all so hard,
dont start getting personal,
dont get in my face.
If you notice I usually dont go after people here until they come at me. I compliment artist as often as I bash on artist, you juts dont notice or credit the positve and you seem to take personal the negative, and when you do, that is on you.
I post under many names, and it is somewhat amusing to see you go from saying thanks to me to whining at me...
Just do your thing and dont take it all personal or get negative personal. I add as much good to this place as anyone.
Posted by: Trent | November 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Most of us have no idea how much good you add to this place. It might be a little easier to notice the positive if you didn't change your name on every post.
Posted by: KC Jones | November 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM
"I add as much good to this place as anyone."
That's funny as hell. Look, don't try to reason with him, KC Jones. He's just a bored sociopath. We go to the shows and do all the work on this blog and he comes here to crap on everything. You never hear anything but bullshit and insults from him, so reasoning with him is futile. Has anyone here ever heard this guy mention ONE show he's seen in the past few years? Of course not. He could leave now and nobody would miss him (hint, hint).
But go ahead, call me a whiner ten more times, if it gets you off. I'll keep going to shows and enjoy writing about music with the like-minded folks here, despite you. Go see a show, ANY show, come back with and give us something we can use, and then we'll talk. Whining?? Dude, I saw three good Rock shows in the past week. I'm overjoyed, brother. Now I'm going to go back to enjoying my life and you can go back to, well, whatever THIS is that you're doing. We're done here, friend..........
Posted by: Geordan | November 19, 2012 at 12:07 PM
I was being kind there, I wasnt a smart alec and still you just keep on whining? keep swiping at air? are you crazy?
If you want to be trolled then that can happen, you aint seen nuthin yet, but it might be better to let go.
Just because someone posts some reviews does not all of a sudden give them a right to be an asshole to anyone. It takaes all sorts to make this place go, no one is special.
Let it go son, unless you really wanna play, but it wont end well, it never does.
Go back to having fun geordan and stop trying to be a moderator.
Posted by: Herman | November 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM
I have had the pleasure of meeting Geordan at several shows over the last year or so. I am happy to report that we hit it off really well. Just a real nice genuinely friendly guy. I always enjoy reading his comments, he certainly has demonstrated his knowledge about a lot of bands and that always makes for a good read.
In addition, he has the ability to comment about a show he didn't necessarily enjoy (see Thorn, Paul) without resorting to spewing a bunch of negative derogatory comments.
In summary, I enjoy his writing and look forward to running into him (same goes for pellboy, kcmom etc) at many more shows in the future!
Posted by: onthemark | November 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM
and otm you think that gives him the right to get all uppity? Nope it doesnt.
How about he posts his words about shows and not try to make mental evaluations about anyone else, or it will get ugly, and there is no need for that.
Posted by: Herman | November 19, 2012 at 12:49 PM
"Let it go son, unless you really wanna play, but it wont end well, it never does."
"it will get ugly, and there is no need for that."
....I don't know, Tim Finn, or whoever is watching over this board, but did that come off as a threat??
Posted by: Geordan | November 19, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Well Herman, I won't claim to speak for Geordan. He does quite well for himself in that respect.
I can see his point though. Perhaps he is just frustrated at those who get on this blog and post comments that are insulting? That could be, and I can't say I blame him.
Maybe he is frustrated that with your history of attending 3,000 to 4,000 live shows you have never really given this blog the benefit of sharing that live music history? There are a LOT of commenters on this blog who are more than happy to share memories of concerts past. You could certainly contribute in that regard.
Here's an analogy: I go out often and play music at open jams. The talent level ranges from raw beginners to polished musicians. But no matter how well someone plays, they are welcome to participate because we do it for enjoyment and the fact we all love playing music. Everyone receives applause and encouragement, after all we were all raw beginners at one point. It is truly a brotherhood of musicians, a nice feeling of fellowship.
Much the same way, the community on backtorockville is a friendly group. As I mentioned, I have met several contributors as well as the moderator Tim Finn. Every one has been super nice and easy to chat with. This blog is a community of like minded folks who are all fans of music. Not saying that everyone will or even has to agree, variety of opinions provide a lot of spice to the commentary. But to really enjoy that sense of community, you need to make a bit more effort to be willing to consider varying and opposing opinions while providing commentary that explains your point of view without being overly inflammatory.
I shall now step down off my soap box...
Posted by: onthemark | November 19, 2012 at 01:42 PM
""I don't know, Tim Finn, or whoever is watching over this board, but did that come off as a threat??""
LMAO!!! now you just look like a fkg pussy you stupid little douchebag. This goofball geordan posts 2-3 reviews and all of sudden thinks he is a board moderator? LOL! go fk yourself geordan,
I tried being nice... but dubmfk geordan wants ugly instead, well no problem dumshit.
Lets have some flame wars.
Posted by: Milt | November 19, 2012 at 01:54 PM
Tim, do we really have to continue putting up with this bunk? People get kicked off of the Editorials thread for posting far less offensive comments than this clown. I used to find DT entertaining but now it's just plain offensive. I am sure I am not alone in my opinion. This is a great blog with many well informed contributors. I am sure I speak for all of us when I say that we would prefer to not have to sift through offensive comments and insults made by some deranged troll to get some useful insight on local music. Thanks so much.
Posted by: NEW | November 20, 2012 at 10:54 AM
""I used to find DT entertaining but now it's just plain offensive.""
translation-
"As long as I agree with what someone says it is OK, but when I disagree with them I want them kicked out"
Posted by: Jesse | November 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM
When people attack other people, then people should expect a like type response. If people would just post their opinions without making personal attacks on others then things would be fine.
I see DT, and others, make comments on artists but does not really go after anyone personally unless that person attacks first. If people would be cool, things would be cool.
Limiting this blog to only "party line agreeing opinions" would make this blog very boring.
Enough with the whining and crying and more posts about the music, and if people do not like their favorites bands bashed then maybe people should stop making bashing remarks about other bands.
bottom line-
Dont start nuthin, wont be nuthin.
Posted by: Brett | November 20, 2012 at 12:44 PM
DT/Jesse/Brett. In the last 48 hours, you have tried to play a though guy and threatened Geordan after he offered a perfectly rational and well thought out rebugttal, crudely insulted just about every other poster on here and then whined about how you are such a viotim in all this. It has nothing to do with conflicting opinions. It's just getting really old and everyone is really tired of it.
Posted by: NEW | November 20, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Geordan played tough guy first,
dont start nuthin, wont be nuthin.
and you better watch out, your spellin is gitn werse than mine ;)
Posted by: DJB | November 20, 2012 at 01:33 PM
And no I didnt insult everyone here.... I did not insult you, or pellboy or TF or even otm. But being dramatic is fun, eh?
Posted by: DJB | November 20, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Yeah, but I would never tell anyone to go fuck themselves here and that's it's allowed here is appalling. If this guy gets to continue here unabated, I'm out. His passive-aggressive threats and insults are bad enough (it's easy to be the tough guy sitting behind a keyboard), it's just that his shitting on every thread here is getting too hard to ignore and all this nonsense is somehow ALLOWED. It's been ruining this board for me for WAY too long. "Don't start nuthin', won't be nuthin'??" THAT is what we're dealing with here. If it continues, I'll just find better ways to waste of a few minutes elsewhere. I love this blog immensely, but something has to change.
Posted by: Geordan | November 20, 2012 at 01:49 PM
Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others and the rules of society. Psychopaths have a total lack of empathy and remorse, and have very shallow emotions. They are generally regarded as callous, selfish, dishonest, arrogant, aggressive, impulsive, irresponsible, and hedonistic. They have a tendency to surface on internet sites as anonymous trolls.
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion
Posted by: troll slayer | November 20, 2012 at 02:02 PM
Thank you Dr Frued, but could you give a TL/DR?
btw- awesome news that geordan is leaving... so he will start his own board and write reviews there, it seems that is what he wants anyway, but he is being all dramtic about going about it.... and probably some whiners can follow him.... but they will all be back (to rockville).... because this is where its at.
ps
Geordan, you started this, you jumped my shit, and then got other people on me and if you think you can pull that crap and get away with it, sorry....
but if you apologize and ask me to be nice to you again I will consider it.
Posted by: Dick | November 20, 2012 at 02:27 PM
It's your move, moderator.....
Posted by: Geordan | November 20, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Really? How pathetic....
I remember a little kid in grade school who loved to start trouble and then whine to his big brother, who would to come help his idiot little brother, it was sad.... but that game didnt last long before the big brother saw the deal, and then the little brotehr started behaving.
Wittle gordy reminds me of that kid, starting trouble and then crying for someone to help him....
Gordy, it is time to grow up.
If you start trouble you need to finish it. Stop expecting people to bail you out.
Post your opinion, let others post theirs and then move on along.... or quit this blog and start your own, it seems that is what you are angling for anyway.
Posted by: Dick | November 20, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Sure, Dick, I come here to discuss music in this town. always have, and you come here to troll, threat, and insult 24/7, and I am the one that needs to grow up. OK....We ARE posting our opinions here and then we wait a few minutes and then just like clockwork, you pounce and take a huge dump and destroy everything. I would hate to live your lonely, friendless life. Are you in therapy? Meds? If this blog would be better off without one person who loves music, is somewhat knowledgeable about it, and loves to share opinions about it, over a bipolar shut-in who has nothing substantial to add here, then I will go. Simple as that. I'm still going to go to shows and have an awesome time. But letting a troll take over something that is otherwise pretty wonderful is no longer worth the effort.
Posted by: Geordan | November 20, 2012 at 04:14 PM